e-mail to Jackson Laboratory and John Schloendorn about obtaining old mice 11-8-12

2014-09-30

azim58 - e-mail to Jackson Laboratory and John Schloendorn about
obtaining old mice 11-8-12

e-mail found here:
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&amp;shva=1#label/Career/13add2fa308b
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Good afternoon and thank you for your inquiry. We have aged mice in our
C57BL/6J mouse line, stock number 000664 for the males. These are aged up
to 16 months old or 65 weeks of age. Pricing at this age is $171.65 per
mouse. The price of this same strain at 4 months old, or 16 weeks of age,
is $37.70 per mouse.
BALB/cJ mice, stock number 000651 are only sold up to 15 weeks old, and
that is for females at $33.00 per mouse. The oldest we sell males of this
strain is 10 weeks old due to the males of this strain becoming very
aggressive. The price at this age is $23.10. If you are interested in
older mice we may have you talk to our JAX Mice Services Team and they
will age the colony up to the ages you desire.

The costs of the aged mice, example, C57BL/6J, has to do with other
issues like health and husbandry for these animals, food, water, animal
care, etc.,...which I am sure you can appreciate.

Another option is that you may want to look into our retired breeders.
C57BL/6J retired breeder females are $18.36 per mouse and retired breeder
males are $17.01 per mouse. These mice are between 7-9 months old and you
receive the month and year they are born on day of shipment. The key to
remember in ordering retired breeders is for males we may only ship mice
per shipping box...so shipping would be your freight cost plus the
shipping container. Each shipping box is $13.00 and freight cost to your
facility is $59.00 per shipping box.

Retired breeder price for BALB/cJ mice, stock number 000651, is $17.91
for the females and $17.68. I am not sure what the month age range is but
it would be approximately the same as the C57BL/6J strain.

I hope this helps you and if you have more questions please let us know.

Thanks so much and have a nice day,

Laurie Davis

Customer Service Representative
JAX Mice & Services
The Jackson Laboratory
610 Main St.
Bar Harbor, ME 04609 USA
Tel: 1-800-422-6423
Fax: 1-207-288-6150
Email: orderquest@jax.org)
Web: www.jax.org/jaxmice
See http://engage.jax.org/catalogRequest for new prices.

-----Original Message-----
From: kurtwhittemore@gmail.com [mailto:kurtwhittemore@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 5:58 PM
To: orderquest
Subject: price of ordering old mice

email: kurtwhittemore@gmail.com
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secr: Kurt
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company: Arizona State University
phone1: 480-559-9781
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CallDesc: I would like to know information about the price difference
between ordering old and young mice. I believe that typical lab mice
usually live a few months past 2 years. I am interested in ordering some
mice a few months before they die for some aging related studies. What
would the price difference be for ordering a BALB/c mouse that is
finished sexually maturing (maybe 4 months old) compared to an old mouse
that is about 1 year and 10 months old? Thanks for any information you
can offer me!

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Here's John Schloendorn's response found here
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&amp;shva=1#label/Career/13add4fa195d5fc4

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We went with retired breeders for the scrubbing project. As she says,
they're not very old, but were sufficient for our purposes. These guys
are the angriest mice i've ever seen. Maybe that's because they liked
their job a lot and aren't into this being retired business at all.

If you need them older than that, I think you're stuck with something
reasonably close to the options she offers.

You could consider contacting NIA for their stocks. I think that's the
broadest choices available at any single place.
http://www.nia.nih.gov/research/scientific-resources. But you're gonna be
looking at a little bit of red tape, and will have to pay something close
to the commercial providers too. But they might have something the other
guys' don't, like extremely, very old critters.

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